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Hi, the only way Pakistan can get these ships is via a long term soft loan (meaning low deferred interest) from China. No other country will provide Pakistan with this type of payment arrangement. Pakistan is in no shape to cough up $2B+ for ships and subs on its own, that is the sad...

Hi, also to follow up on Mr. MK's point. How can Pakistan afford more Agostas, Marlins, or U214s? China is the only country that will offer Pakistan long term soft concessional loans. That is the only hope the PN has of getting new subs. I hope they do buy a few Chinese subs, in addition to...

Hi, here are my 2 cents. The PN definitely needs the Type 054A class ships. Also there have been various articles saying they are looking at them. but time will tell. In terms of costs, Pakistan always gets soft loans from China, as that country never seems to be able to pay for these big...

Hi, let's not get off topic. My personal 2 cents, failure is not bad as long as you learn from it. The Agni 2 might have failed this time, but India does have a lot of bright and intelligent scientists who will fix the error going forward. Take care.

Hi, I agree with Mr. MK. After Sarko's and Merkel's comments, I think French and German equipment is a long shot. Also France was going to charge 12M per plane for the French avionics suite, a bit steep in my eyes. It will be interesting to see what the Block II JF-17 is like and when...

Hi, according to this article talks are underway for a 1G plant. However, there was no mention of timing. Take care. China, Pakistan sign 20 bn dollar deals: minister | Pakistan | DAWN.COM

Hi, Pakistan has to be realistic in this particular case. China should be able to sneak 2 300MW reactors under the guise of the exisiting Chasma deal. China is already saying these are reactors # 3-4. However, getting a brand a new 1G reactor might be a bit difficult. The reality is that...

Hi, I think by the "F-5" they mean the Chinese version of the Mig-15/17 that is used as a trainer. Shenyang J-5 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Also the number of Mi-17s seems a bit high for the Pakistan Army (93?). Take care. PAKISTAN ARMY Type Active Ordered COMBAT HELICOPTER...

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Hi, I will not derail this thread so this will be my last comment on this. Regardless of whether I have a billion or two to spare, the PAF is flushing its money down the toilet on these used planes. They are sanction prone, and probably have kill switches in them. The PAF will never be able...