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If you look at the right of the picture, on the ground you can see a large shadow in line with the other JF-17s, meaning there are eight JFs in the pic.

I can confirm what Blain2 has posted regarding Gripen being "too advanced for PAF." The Air Chief Marshal himself has stated in an interview somewhere that PAF was offered transfer of technology by Sweden for the Gripen, but did not take up the offer because technology was too advanced and...

PAF will definitely attack MKI, MMRCA, M2k and Jaguar with more than just F-16 and J-10. Anybody who thinks JF can't also attack these aircraft is simply foolish, with AWACS support JF-17 can take on any 4-4.5 gen fighter over home territory with BVRAAMs and have at least some success - this...

:rolleyes: No Mr. Troll, you mean belief of certain bigoted and racist individuals, many of whom are Indian. Elaborate deception. LOL. One moment you make fun of Pakistani commandos because they couldn't take "a mosque with a few extremists inside it," then you say it is all lies? Like I...

Nope, that is not a contradiction. Why are you being so stupid? I said PAF is happy to accept JF-17 with Russian engine and Chinese radar FOR NOW, but is evaluating French radar and weapons for upgrades and new JF-17 versions. PAF is happy with radar and engine right now, that is why they...

Still posting lies and rumours iceman? JF-17 is being sold by a joint China-Pakistan organisation and Pakistan recieves 50% of the profits - confirmed. JF-17 has TWO engines, Russia has allowed re-export to several countries in 2007 - confirmed in many news articles. Chinese engine was in...

Thanks zombie, nice pic!:)

I guess you were just showing the viewpoint of certain people, I hope they continue to under-estimate the PAF and Chinese equipment. :crazy:

w.salaam, great post sir! I do agree that transport aircraft seem to be being overlooked, but transport aircraft cannot defend Pakistan's airspace! I disagree that J-10 should be put on standby. If anything, F-16 and Erieye should be put on standby - there are Chinese equivelants being built...

Don't you mean "wazoo" ?

Can't you do a simple google search? Here I will help you with that: JF-17 marketing organisation - Google Search I guess I may as well show you the VERY FIRST LINK that appears on the google search page: Stuck in Sichuan: Pakistani JF-17 Program Grounded? No. How about I quote a paragraph...

JF-17 is being marketed by a joint Sino-Pakistani organisation that was set up specifically for this purpose from what I have read. I agree very much with your post sir. Although I personally feel both LCA and JF-17 can be considered very basic 4th gen combat aircraft, I do understand why many...

Ignore it bro, that picture is just an F-35 edited to look like JF-17. That "news" is trash, nothing more. JF-17 will never become a 5th gen fighter, but no need for PAF fans to worry - China and Pak. have it covered ;) You should hear something about it by 2012 according to inside sources...

We'll see when it happens, until then your LCA prototypes are no match for an aircraft that is being operationalised by April THIS YEAR. Only in your dreams kid. BS. JF-17 has a TWR of 0.95, so it doesn't need composites for light weight. TWR of Dassault M2k is almost 1, M2k is a 4th gen...

China has their own satellite system that Pakistan uses and soon China will launch a Pakistani "communications" satellite (within next couple of years I think). You biased people only remember Russian satellite system but forget China's and Pakistan's satellites? :rolleyes:

ROSE Mirages are fairly advanced 3rd gen combat jets. Got some links for ROSE info: Pakistan Military Consortium :: www.PakDef.info Pakistan Military Consortium :: www.PakDef.info Also, this article on Mirage ROSE (Retrofit Of Strike Element) upgrade program was posted on the forum by M...

Sorry to break it to you but you're only telling half-truths. They appear correct to you, but really they are not the whole story. Yes China is going for J-10, yes in many ways it is superior to JF-17. But JF-17 is cheaper, smaller, easier to maintain - these are some of the reasons why PAF is...

Thank you for your kind words sir, it means a lot. I'm afraid your knowledge is a little out of date, the Chinese have indeed succeeded in turbofan technology! Shenyang WS-10 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia WS-6 was a failure, but according to this article WS-10 was its replacement. The...

:rolleyes: Like I said. Silly little kids. Aditya you are a fool just as Super Falcon is. So what if Zimbabwe ordered it? They won't get it if they don't have the money. If they do, they probably will. SIMPLE. So what if Bangladesh rejected JF-17? They want J-10 because they cannot afford both...

You don't know what you're talking about, quit typing BS. JF-17 has better sustained manueverability that LCA because it has a cropped delta wing. JF-17 has Chinese weapons which are equivelant to Russian weapons on LCA and better than Indian weapons on LCA. LCA has Indian and israeli avionics...