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http://www./air-force/j-20-new-generation-fighter-ii-33-5429.html ^^^^^ This is written by another chines person I doubt is was WS-15, but I guess it was some kind of stop-gap Ws-10 used to push forward the indigenous engine infrastructure (as tphuang have indicated), though not fully...

LOL that is probably written by a chinese person hence Chinese-Us relations

IT doesn't have to, because if WS-15 was 130Kn plus like what ppl say, The article would have said they USED WS-15 instead of Al-41A(S-117)

here u go: Sources indicate the twin-engine J-20 prototype could be using the Russian-built Saturn 117S (AL-41F1A) engine, the same being used in the T-50 and Su-35 prototypes. China has expressed interest in procuring large quantities of the Saturn 117S from Russia and rumors at the recent...

This post is about a Chinese air craft, WITH a TURBOFAN.... Pak doesn't even have a R&D center for such project, why are u trolling

Planes , radars are different from ENGINES.... The turbo fans are the hardest part... to BE HONEST SWEDISH GRIPPIN IS ALSO BETTER THN ANY PLANE CHINA AND INDIA CAME OUT WITH... BUT THEY LACK AN ENGINE, THEY USE A GE 404

EVEN THE FRENCH Don't have a Turbofan, OVER 100kN,,, M-88 is 75kN ... Pretty Sure Rafaele CAN BEAT ANY CHINES AIRCRAFT

WAIT According to some of the members, they said they already had WS-10 versions producing 130+ ???

PLease PROVIDE ME THE LINK ABOUT THIS 100+ kN... and i will close my thread! DIDN't the CHINESE buy Russian englines RD-91 for JF-17?? HAHAHAH now all of a sudden the are supperior to Russia... GUYS IF THIS IS ALL TRUE, WHY WOULD J-20 USE S-117(Al-41F) with 143 kN engines for FIRST FLIGHT????????

PLease PROVIDE ME THE LINK ABOUT THIS 100+ kN... and i will close my thread! DIDN't the CHINESE buy Russian englines RD-91 for JF-17?? HAHAHAH now all of a sudden the are supperior to Russia... GUYS IF THIS IS ALL TRUE, WHY WOULD J-20 USE S-117(Al-41F) with 143 kN engines for FIRST...

WHEN HAVE the Chinese overtaken AMERICAN firms like GE and PRAT & WhiTELY??????? Seriously haven't heard the news that CHINA SURPASSED AMERICA IN Turbofans?:rofl: :rofl::rofl:

THIS ISN't ABOUT INDIA!!! WHERE DID I MENTION INDIA IN MY POST Troll/OGER??

WS-13: Maximum thrust: 51.2 kilonewtons (11,500 lbf) dry; 86.37 kilonewtons (19,420 lbf) with afterburner Bypass ratio: 0.57:1 Even if WS-10A is 132Kn ( higly doubt), it it still a reach to get to 180 Kn... Russia has stoped at 147... U.S. took 20 years to provided the Lockheed with a 191 kN...

Do you have proof or source to disprove my claim,, WIKI is not a source

but dude, the S117 Russian engines with 143 kN were used in taxy run and its first flight... The Ws-15 were not ready in time for Jet. Russia and U.S. have had half a century of experience and have struggled to get to where they are...

The J-xx or J-20 is nearly 80,000 pounds undoubdetly the heaviest and largest Stealth Fighter in terms of weight and size... China currently lack the capability to make engines that can power this mammoth plane to operate like a normal fighter, The F-22 is 10,000 to 20,000 pounds lighter than...