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Istanbul Class? It's much like our Abdul kadir predreadnought adventure which lasted 18 years.

Hocam başka bir şey daha var.Çelik patlama sırasında bükülür.Alüminyum ise parçalanır ve bükülme hasarı azaltırken parçalanma artırır. ..... CVN's are too big to get sinked by just a few anti ship missiles. This one of the reasons of China's anti ship ballistic missile program. ... I meant hits...

First i read it as Towed array radar and said "Dafuq" Then i noticed it was sonar.:-) .... Its radar seems very small indeed but who is developed those SSM launchers? They are not Harpoons original.Also ship seems to be very small. Its endurance wouldn't be long enough to impress navy i think...

Yeah site crashed several times nowadays.

I don't believe that unmanned ships will take over the roles of manned ones in near future. ...... What is this picture? @isoo @Neptune @xxxKULxxx I saw it in a discussion of national FAC project .... With the coming of LHD will there be a CSG like LHD+ 1 TF-2000 + 2 TF-100? ... There will be a...

Korvet ve bot radar büyüklüğünden. menzilden ve yapması gereken görevlerden ayrılabilir. Savunma saldırı konusunda da Geminin görevi AAW değilse kendini savunuyor.

SM-3 and SM-2 aren't direct competitors. SM-3 is an BMD missile while SM-2 mostly engages aircraft. It would be good.If we had both of them .... I think SM-2 will be selected for anti-aircraft role since that aster 30 looks to be out of competition in recent news. ... @xxxKULxxx Üstadım yanlış...

Not that big. See USS Truxtun

A good point 1.Firepower: it's tend to increase with displacement. Generally true 2.Range: it's possible for long or short range but for fuel it's not compeletely true because of nuclear propulsion. We should also include food but it's generally enough for almost every ship 3.Radar range: it's...

For firepower zumwalt is superior to both of them for ASuW despite that it has less cells.Because it's carries air defence weapons just for self defence.Much of its cells are loaded with tomahawks.Also it has two AGS so it can be called as successor to battleships.

Is it a cover? i think it's just darkness @xenon54 Surely @isoo

Can you see now @xenon54

Don't understand it wrong.Durand De La Penne is a Destroyer.I meant that some ships that around 5000 tonnes can be classified as a destroyer as a response to @xenon54 @isoo

Again not exactly. Zumwalt is 5000 tonnes heavier than Ticonderoga's but still a destroyer.

It looks like we have agreed that capabilities are more important than name.

What do you say for Ticonderoga's? And Italian Durand De la Pelle class has 5700 tonnes of displacement

Destroyers are between frigates and cruisers.Their displacements are roughly 5000-10000 tonnes.

What do you say about rumors that tf-2000 will have 64 or 48 cell VLS? it will it a destroyer similar to Type 45. Also in turkish military forums many people say that it will be like MILGEM which is named as corvette but has capabilities of a frigate like French La Fayette class

FREMM is also a multirole frigate it is have SCALP Naval. Also isn't the meaning of multirole is to accomplish a wide variety of missions? and wouldn't it be better to have that capability to help tf-2000 to fulfill it's aaw role rather than ASuW?

Does it very hard to fit ge f-110-129 with hidden thrust vectoring nozzles?