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Good work!! since 90 raid Karachi's situation is headed for the betterment. Its time that people who are of mindset that they own Karachi and they can use it to do whatever they desire, must be bought to justice.

India not going for Rafale is the only thing that is keeping PAF from not going for J-10B. PAF has given signs at times that until IAF goes for Rafale or Eurofighter we wont opt for J-10B. Until then they plan to given thunder as much teeth as possible and then directly jump to 5th generation...

Well if PAF must go for AESA asap but did the post say that Mirage III is getting AESA? If yes why bhai aren't we phasing them out?

Well you are the biggest advocate of J-10B on this forum but I am of opinion that if we are going for another platform then it should be in heavy category so J-11D and that too with AESA. Secondly I favor J-11D because by the time we'll get J-10B JF-17 would be somewhat as capable as J-10B. And...

You would not have LOLed if you had read the post correctly and tried to understand what I was trying to convey. I never said MKI is not a problem for PAF my point was MKI's treat is nothing compared to the treat posed by Rafale. Secondly RCS is just a factor that I think goes in PAF favor.

MKI is not as big of a treat as Rafale. It is a huge fighter with very large RCS, with a sightly improved radar thunder and F-16 wil easily pick it up before it picks them. Another factor that is in PAF's favor is MKI has very low serviceability this means IAF will only be able to deploy only a...

OK agreed that J-10's weapons package is cheaper than F-16's but what about the training that we would need? JF-17 is part of PAF since 2007 and yet we have not developed complete tactics for it in fact it was recently when it was inducted in airschool to develop tactics and train pilots...

Unfortunately its a fact that we have almost nothing that we can offer as an input to any 5th generation program, but so does India but they are a partner in FGFA/T-50 program. Though we are short on cash but if we look at it from the perspective that what we will learn from such projects then...

Well I'm not defending the mistakes that we have made in the past, the points you have quoted are valid and if we have gone for 72 F-16 and 36 J-10A(that was what was offered as J-10B was in development?) our airforce would have been way more strong than it is right now. Nor am I against J-10B...

So most probably its going to be T-37 that we'll get not T-38. With the confirmation of this one more thing would be confirmed that PAF is not going for an additional platform other than J-31/J-XX.

I highly doubt that we can get J-11D because if we ask, there Indian lobby wont matter but going for Russian jets Indian lobby would never let that happen. It is a well known fact that indians are more close to russians than pakistanis. If it was not for china indians had made sure we didn't get...

Well there is no doubt that Su-35 is the answer to any 4.5 generation fighter but my question remains the same. Will we be able to get them? Are we so close to russia that they'll give us the best of flanker series?

Totally agree with you that if India goes for Rafale then F-16 only are not an appropriate answer, we would need something that can match Rafale's capability but keeping in mind the recent news about Rafale deal either India would pull off the biggest surprise or the deal is about to die...

I highly doubt that PN would go for such a thing right now they have focused on getting those subs and increase the number of frigates.

It is a good deal for Pakistan though I think we are a bit late in signing this deal, but better late than never. These helicopters will add to our anti-tank arsenal. 1 question though who will operate them PAF or Army Aviation?

You are talking about helicopter incident do you know the exact details of the entire event that took place? On the other hand these were the pilots who locked on MKI using the same F-16 post Mumbai Drama tensions. When you talk about Kargil lets get your fact straight PAF was not allowed to...

We have that jet this is the reason we should go for more if possible and avalible at lower costs. PAF knows F16 inside out and have been practicing tactics on them for more than 3 decades now. Everyone knows if indian mki or anyother jet violates pakistani air space our falcons will give them a...

I dont think V Upgrade is being offered to Pakistan. However offered or not J10 is not needed now.

I totally agree with you that only jft and f16 are not enough for our security but the real question is, does our budget allow us to purchase such things? No doubt J10 is something we need but can we buy them in enough numbers and still have sufficient cash in our pockets that when IAF posses a...

As long as india is looking to purchase jets everyone will be interested in selling. But the point is what does IAF wants, no doubt Rafale, EFT and F18 all are one of the best but the real question remains the same what is IAF's requirement? I am not an expert but as far as I know the more...