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    PAF speeds up fighter force modernisation with JF-17 Block III- Gulf News

    A lot of people online thought fc31 was a private venture due to it's appearance in air shows. But that was all a half hearted effort. Even j10 was showing up in air shows long before china was willing to export it. Fc31 progress was slower than j20 because plaaf allocated a lot more fund for...
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    Featured Project Azm: Pakistan's Ambitious Quest to Develop 5th Generation Military Technologies.

    If Pakistan has the money and will, I'm sure China is willing to export FC-31s to Pakistan by around early 2030s. China is currently projecting to introduce 6th generation aircraft by 2035. I don't see any obstacles for Chinese export to Pakistan. Especially if India gets its acts together...
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    PAF speeds up fighter force modernisation with JF-17 Block III- Gulf News

    FC-31/J35 was always a PLA project. You don't proceed as far as SAC have with just private funding and no guaranteed export customers. If it did, the project would look a lot like that joke Su-75 project out of Russia. It starts off with WS-21 as engine (roughly in the same generation as...
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    PAF J-10C News, Updates and Discussion

    Considering the relationship between China and Pakistan, I can easily see a scenario where China offers PAF some used J-10As upgraded to J-10C standard in avionics and weapon support. And PAF would just need to pay for the upgrade cost. That would be a good way for PAF to cheaply add...
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    The future of the Pakistan Air Force fighter fleet

    I asked this on the J-10 thread, but just want to get an idea of the current PAF composition. How many PAF fighter squadrons are there? What many fighters in active service? How many F-7s and Mirages are still looking to get replaced?
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    PAF J-10C News, Updates and Discussion

    Just curious, how many F-7s and Mirages are still in service with PAF? Can they be replaced 1-to-1 by incoming JF-17s? I'd think J-10s will eventually replace F-16s in PAF, but maybe they initially take over some JF-17s squadrons which then replaces F-7/Mirages.
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    Iraq to buy 12 JF-17 Thunder jets from Pakistan

    The question is why you would think "modern Mig-29s" are better than JF-17 block 3. Especially when Mig-35 is a fraction of Russia's original sales pitch and not even picked up by RuAF https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/35500/why-russias-mig-35-is-starting-to-look-like-a-dead-duck I'm sure...
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    JF-17 Block-3 -- Updates, News & Discussion

    If F-16s were actually good enough to handle Rafales, then there is no need/reason for PAF to order J-10Cs. The reality is that the F-16s are not good enough. And yes, JF-17 block 3s are at least as capable in air defense/interception role as the MLU'd F-16s if not the block 50/52. The...
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    Export bids for JF-17 Thunder Multirole Lightweight Fighter Aircraft

    Sorry I have no idea what KEs are. I have not been following things closely for a few years now. As for the Qatari deal, I think you should offer everything available whether its building local industry, full ToT or whatever else to secure it. There is no greater boost possible for a program...
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    Export bids for JF-17 Thunder Multirole Lightweight Fighter Aircraft

    You might want to read about the reality of Mig-35 and AESA radar https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/35500/why-russias-mig-35-is-starting-to-look-like-a-dead-duck There is a huge difference between promoting things for export and actually having it in production and on aircraft. Russians...
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    Chengdu J-20 5th Generation Aircraft News & Discussions

    It'd be interesting to see what the breakdown in WS-10C equipped vs AL-31FN equipped J-20 is. Clearly, production has picked up in the last couple of year as J-20 switched to using WS-10C. Aside from engine, I'd imagine other subsystems have also matured a lot more leading to more production...
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    PAF J-10C News, Updates and Discussion

    I don't recall exactly, since I read those parts 7 to 8 years ago. It did open up my mind to just how much closer the actual engagements are taking place despite the maximum search range of radar and of the BVR AAMs. If J-7s could beat Su-27s, that means Su-27s cannot effectively keep tracking...
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    PAF J-10C News, Updates and Discussion

    The exact range really isn't that important. It's great for exporters to promote themselves and for fanboys to boast online, but it's really not that important. Keep in mind that Indian fanboys for years have been spreading online how great Su-30MKI's BARS radar is and how it can search 400 km...
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    PAF J-10C News, Updates and Discussion

    There is a couple of things I want to address here. First of all, I would consider WS-10 to be quite mature by this point. It's true that back in 2015, AL-31F probably did have long service life and reliability than WS-10. But we've gone through several years of flying now and PLAAF have been...
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    PAF J-10C News, Updates and Discussion

    On the topic of why JF-17 engine choice vs J-10. Pakistan has a long established maintenance process for RD-93s. It really would be costly and annoying for PAF to deviate from that. WS-13/21 is also a new engine that's just being used on a few UAVs and FC-31 prototypes. I can completely...
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    PAF J-10C News, Updates and Discussion

    I find the claim of AL-31FN on J-10CP to be quite dubious. The Chinese sources have said that export of J-10 to Pakistan is only becoming a reality now due to the fact that WS-10B has finally shown itself to be reliable on J-10C. Previously, having to get export license from Russians for...
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    PAF J-10C News, Updates and Discussion

    Aside from J-20 (which is limited in numbers), the only fighter jet comparable to J-10C in air superiority/interceptor role within PLAAF is J-16. That's why PAF is bringing it in for the Rafale threat. There is a lot of speculation about J-11D. I don't see why that particular variant is...
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    PAF J-10C News, Updates and Discussion

    It's hard to see China exporting J-10 to anyone else in the near future for a number of reasons. First of all, China already has an export oriented aircraft in JF-17. Pakistan have really done a great job of working with China to develop this aircraft to be a capable aircraft. It has also...
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    Featured Pakistan Navy Type 054AP Frigates - Update, News & Discussion

    There is a lot more to AAW than just how many missiles you carry and their range. Otherwise, Type 045 wouldn't be considered one of the premier area defence destroyers out there. One pro for Type 054A is that everything is produced inside China and all the subsystems are very mature. So once...
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    Featured Pakistan Navy Type 054AP Frigates - Update, News & Discussion

    Based on what people here have said, PN typically gets a much lower procurement budget than the air force and army. On the flip side, IN actually has a very large procurement budget. So when the higher up at PN are making decisions on what ships to order, they have to think about what's the...
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