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so by your logic whomever bans them are insane.

Qadianis choose craven support for oppressive regimes since its inception. Its well documented that during the Khilfat and non-cooperation movements, jammat was found firmly on the side of British Government , issuing pamphlets publicizing that obedience of God and obedience of British in the...

You have missed the point . my focus was on the point that Pakistan was not the only country that have declared them non believers. The merits was law was not the point. Secondly never said that WML or Pakistan has a clean slate.

Freedom is always subjective and state laws are define considering the interest of majority.

Most of the articles posted on this thread is intellectually risible and shamefully vacuous and this is sort off on the top the list for me . I acknowledge that there are wrongs in the moslim world and Pakistan in general but we can do better than to take indefensible positions based on false...

In a democratic society freedom is always subject to limitations defined by law. Under the constitution of Islamic Republic of Pakistan, Ahmadiyya Community is legally declared a non-Muslim minority, giving them all the rights of a minorities.

Whole Pakistani nation is a victim of that terror - thousands of pakistans' have died in terrorist attack before 28th May and they have started to accuse in response. how strange.terrorist attacked because they are inhuman and there is no other reason. they attacked congregation of muharram...

European Convention on Human Rights Article 9 – Freedom of thought, conscience and religion 1. Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in...

people seem sto forget people like Hafiz Saeed are ignorant dogs. lets leave them in peace to wag their tail and bark. dont really know why people take him so seriously.

Still no counterterrorism strategy by Mosharraf Zaid One of my closest friends has never once, in more than fifteen years, ever responded to my salaam with a salaam. I have never held it against him. If he did, and a budding Mullah Chinioti heard him say it, he could be imprisoned for...

@Nahraf Your comparison is quite absurd. its natural to be terrified of what will happen i.e. the fear of unknown. And it’s not only about their physical safety but the reactions from their loved ones and people they have known all their life. its more difficult when you lived in closed...

are you insane. social boycott is a big deal and nobody should go through that, and as for them being converted they should if they find flaw in their own believe system. nobody can push them towards anything. btw the point of this debate is their constitutional status in Pakistan nothing else.

Yes they do. social boycott, death threats.. there is whole list i can come up with. @MilesTogo your point being ....? @ Asim Aquil They never through out their themselve called them moslims..Ahmadi Moslim is how they introduce themselves.

No surprises here..everyone must bow down and acknowledge ISI owns CIA/Mossad/RAW arses'. Whinning idiots should remember that double game is l what all of these spy agencies play. :P

actually it is. you have no idea how hard it is to break up from the Jammat and survive. and yes choice well they have made theirs and you have made yours. end of story.

They can claim whatever they want. Making a claim and proving it are two different things. Yes MGA and people who did the baith on him committed apostasy. A person who is born Ahmadi household cant be apostate by definition of the word itself. For me that's the fault of ordinary Qadianis...

True, and there is a disparity among muslim scholars when it comes to apostasy treatment. You are deceitfully wrong. we can debate on this but that will fall under theological discussion and we need to respect that. They are human first and everything else comes latter.

The punishment for Apostacy is conditional. Ahmadis’ these days are generally fourth or fifth generation – and so they aren’t an apostate by defination. So the discussion about being murtad and what Islam says about Murtad is redundant and useless. Anyways I thought we were to discuss about...

Our media tends to portray a negative image and ignore all the positive sides. Apparent its seems Pakistani masses are a ****** dent and liberals are spouting Ahmadiphobia every chance they get. Liberal Pakistanis have a strange sense of arrogance in being liberal, yet insecurity in being the...

There is confidence, over-confidence and arrogance. Few fellow posters seem to forget that very political party has a Pandora box of its own.anyways political options are always good and it will make political parties work harder in punjab for votes.