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according to the information from chinese net, china and pak. just signed 2 cooperation agreements in military, but no details is revealed. anybody here knows the deails about them?

most of the information in this article about j-10 are not correct.

could you let me know the link of the news you quoted? thanks a lot.

news about j-10 from china are strictly controlled. for an example, most of its pictures are processed before posted to the public including in PLA's formal websites. it is very hard to analyse how many hardpoints it has actually.

any source about 4th gen. fighter is secret and strictly controlled. the people who reveal them will be put in prisons. we can only view some technical reports and disquisitions in material and electronics to estimate the possible progress, such as stealth coating, composition material...

the china's area 51 is Airforce Base No. 1.:)

it should be $4million.:D

the difference between the production cost of j-10 in 2005 and su-27sk's sales price in 90's last century is less than $400 milliom.

Could you let me know more details (or links) about the difference in radar performance and avionics between them? thanks.

as mentioned before, i am interested in this post, and wish to discuss with more friends about the possible result. after all, we are not experts, airforce commanders or fighter pilots. i made a tentative claim and would like to have more claims from others. since you consider more details...

:D1 ,the 1st batch may be 4 units in your color. i expect to the watch the video at that time.

planaf had never thought to get fc-1. what planaf is interested include fbc-1, j-11b, j-10 (including two-seat ones) and su-30mkk series. first of all, its payload is not ideal comparing with the mentioned planes. all of these planes including those ones in service have the abilities to be...

i just listed the jets available which may be probably to replace j-6 and j-7. i do not think L-15 would do either. so there are j-8ii (please note not the j-8) and fc-1 left. except in high altitude and the max. speed, j-8ii could not compare with fc-1. but j-8f with modified avionics is...

:biggrin: ,of course, j-10 may not intercept the jets like sr-71.:D

simply saying, j-10's purpose is to intercept all of the jets in services in the world except f-22.:P

j-10 is regarded as an important milestone in course of china fight jet development, which absolutely not for exports. russian original su-27sk and su-30mkk could not use our own advanced missles and bombs. so what we should do? just purchasing from russia those weapons? of course not...

j-8ii of course will remain for a considerable long period. the main reasons are the cost difference between it and j-10 and that it is still in peace time, replacing all of the j-8ii is unnecessary. among the latest models such j-8f, fc-1 and L-15, which one you consider will most possibly...

let me know the data you have to prove mkk's radar is inferior to mki. do you think mkk and mki have the same purposes in battle? are you sure mki will defeat mkk in the air battle? let me know how?:P

i am very interested in this post, and tried in the past days to look for some information about the two kinds of fighters. of course, the info is not enough. i just would like to discuss with everyone interested in this post about the possible result. 4 JF-17 vs 4 mki. first of all, i...

:embarassed: i just found you had posted it already. sorry for my repeating posts in air warefire.:P