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    ISAF (NATO) Killed 3 Pakistani Soldiers @ Pak-Afghan Check Post (Again)

    "Hit Pakistan hard" What exactly do you mean by that? US will kill Pakistani civilians, military personnel, launch air strikes in the tribal areas? I think they're already doing that. Maybe you mean an all-out war with Pakistan. I think you don't understand the position of the Paksitani nation...
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    ISAF (NATO) Killed 3 Pakistani Soldiers @ Pak-Afghan Check Post (Again)

    ^^^ Huh? The only time where Pakistan engaged a U.S. drone was this: I was not aware of them shooting down a helicopter though.
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    ISAF (NATO) Killed 3 Pakistani Soldiers @ Pak-Afghan Check Post (Again)

    I'm afraid you are unfamiliar with some military rules. Here's one of them: When an armed unit of one nation passes over the border into another sovereign nation and comes under attack, they are supposed to immediately turn back. If they engage the incomming fire by retaliating, it is considered...
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    ISAF (NATO) Killed 3 Pakistani Soldiers @ Pak-Afghan Check Post (Again)

    Make no mistake about it, the U.S. helicopter knew where it were. Their GPS systems will make sure of that. They knew they were inside Pakistan, they also knew there was a border post in that location. From the videos I have seen of the U.S. military killing either civilians, journalists or...
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    ISAF (NATO) Killed 3 Pakistani Soldiers @ Pak-Afghan Check Post (Again)

    @saad445566 What in the world are you going on about? ______________________ This is for the random people here who keep saying that Pakistan is the fall-back position for the Taliban to regroup and rearm. It's a news clip during the period of when Pakistan launched the South Waziristan...
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    Chengdu J-10 Multirole Fighter Air Craft News & Discussions

    The Pakistan Airforce modernization program 2009-2019 does not incorporate a twin engine fighter, only single engine ones.
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    What about Mi-35 Attack Helicopters for Pakistan?

    Initially the Hind did not have much armour, after rebels in the Afghan war began shooting at the helicopters with 12.7 mm, among other guns, did the Soviets modify it and added heavier armour. Although, I do have to disagree regarding the maneuverability of attack helicopters. Its machine gun...
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    Pakistan wants combat copters

    I think pakistan Army already operates around 2 dozen Bell 412 helicopters. I might have read somewhere that the AH 6i costs around $2 million each. If that is true, it would take just $100 million to more than double it's arsenal of attack helicopters. However, I think they have their eyes on...
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    PAF Current Inventory

    F-5 is Northrop Freedom Fighter/Tiger, the Q-5s export version is the A-5.
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    PAF Current Inventory

    Pakistan does not operate only 14 Thunders, manufacturing of the plane started at the end of 2009 and every month they roll out 1 or 2 planes. By now they might have around 20 of them. Pakistan Air Force Equipment If they don't announce each and every plane they manufacture, it doesn't mean...
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    How many F-16s VS F/A-22 fighter

    I think here some concepts of stealth are misleading or just misunderstood. Like SnIPeR Xr said, stealth does not make an aircraft disappear, it reduces the range at which it can be detected. Suppose an ordinary aircraft can be detected at 150 km, a F-22 might be detectable at 10 km due to it's...
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    F-35 Nearly Six Years Away, Pakistan Buys F-16s

    @penumbra, You missed my point, but anyway here's where it says PAF owns 60+ F 16 fighters Pakistan Air Force Equipment. The ones that have yet to be delivered also count, because PAF has already paid for them.
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    F-35 Nearly Six Years Away, Pakistan Buys F-16s

    It requires maintenance none-the-less. I would be surprised if the U.S. offered the plane to Pakistan, and even more surprised if Paksitan considers it.
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    F-35 Nearly Six Years Away, Pakistan Buys F-16s

    @gambit If the U.S. is so liberal in transfering it's latest technoligies to on-off countries, why is it extremely reluctant to transfer the 15 year old MQ-1 drones to Pakistan? Keep in mind that the F-35 is not like anything else the U.S. has ever sold before. Even the stealth paint coating on...
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    F-35 Nearly Six Years Away, Pakistan Buys F-16s

    I made that statement based on previous observations. Pakistan has not even received an assembly line for the F-16 even though it has been buying the plane for about 30 years and operates >60 fighters. The U.S. is very reluctant to give Paksitan independance in critical technologies. Do you...
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    F-35 Nearly Six Years Away, Pakistan Buys F-16s

    The 1.1 billion dollar sale was for 4 Erieye-fitted Saab 2000 and 1 Saab 2000 without the radar for training purposes. The price of a JF-17 is not $20 million as stated, but $15 million ($17 million export price). That brings the total of 1 AWACS system and four JF-17s to ~$260 million. As I...
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    F-35 Nearly Six Years Away, Pakistan Buys F-16s

    The F 35 is an AWACS fused with a jet fighter. It's cost is way too much for most countries let alone Pakistan. It's not just the plane itself, but it needs regular maintainance of both it's external stealth coatings and internal electronics. It also needs specialized, dedicated ground units to...
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    Air Force Question Thread

    I'm not an aerodynamic engineer, so I could be wrong here. DSI is a non-mechanical part of an intake that diverts the turbulent, boundry layer of air away from the engine. The DSI comes into effect only at speeds greater than mach 1 (761 miles/hour). Indtead of a DSI, most jets use complex...
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    Chengdu J-10 Multirole Fighter Air Craft News & Discussions

    I'd like you point out where, in my post, did I say that TV was an option for the JF-17? I was refering to the J-10. Chinese are in the process of manufacturing WS 10A engine for the new versions of J-10. It is already being powered by the AL-31 engine. The same engine, but different variant, is...
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