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Same here.. And I predict a Germany Netherlands final... But let's not get ahead of ourselves...anything can happen, especially in this world cup! Costa Rica can give a tough time to the dutch if they get to the quarters.

Already discussed.

Well this escalated pretty quickly!

The altitude is confirmed as 1000 feet. BTW, how does this extra barrel thing work?

Nothing as of now. You know how it works in Pakistan.

Come on Germans...let's roll over those Yanks today... Ja Germany Jaaaa

Well yeah... Let's see what forensics comes up with.

I agree with you on the poor impact strength and thinness of the Aluminium skin on aircraft. But the question is killing a person with that said bullet when fired upward at 1000 feet. There is doubt about the bold part, I and everyone agree to it.

Did you install a new windows? Same happens with me. I installed a new windows 7. Some problem occurred maybe. The HP screen comes...I press escape, got to boot menu, press F11 for network repair and then the PC starts, otherwise it just runs in a loop.

In multan, the weather is like a jumping rabbit, very unpredictable winds I remember my father recounting tales of the adverse weather.

Yeah heard this from a friend...the cause of the crash were high winds from the looks of it. No news about the type as of now...will get more info soon.

That is agreed upon by everyone sir...but does it still have the energy to go through the two layers and then severely injure a person? Look at the video on post 129. Around the middle, a picture comes of the hole on the a/c floor. Do you reckon that is of a 7.62?

Breaking: Emirates Airline Suspend Flight Operations For Peshawar Look at the size of the hole on the floor!!!!

Got it confirmed that this ceremony meant that we can now also overhaul engines and transmission of Mi-17 along with the structure.

That definitely isn't a 7.62 bullet hitting at 1000 feet.

Correction. The plane was at 3.5 nm from the runway according to reliable reports, and with a normal approach angle of 3 degrees, this puts us at around 1000 feet (the 1000 feet figure was also given by a flight steward on TV). Where did you get your figures from? This was expected...

Good news. Now the Cobra is the only heli which we can't overhaul in house. PAF already has a Mi-17 overhaul facility over at PAF Faisal. BTW, would be interesting to know whether the capability to overhaul engine and transmission has also been achieved or not.

What kind of overhaul are we talking about? Mi-17?

The plane was hit when it was approx 1000 feet AGL...a normal SMG like an AK does not have that kind of range. Especially when firing at an upward trajectory, then have the required KE to penetrate the bottom (cargo hold) floor and then hit a person with sufficient energy to kill or severely...

In the aircraft. Two steward also injured. Otherwise had the casualties been on the ground, I doubt the pilots or pax would have even noticed the firing.