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RIP to the brave souls. IAF must find the reason. These were senior pilots, i doubt if they were negligent.

Cannot believe Turkey would do this.

Didn't have bad experience with them, just that a lot of them are very ignorant to reality. But then, most of them or even Pakistanis don't visit PDF for their daily defense and geo-political news.:p: They seem to think that India can invade Pakistan like that. The fact is, conventionally...

I live with Indians. Trust me, i would know. And these aren't low caste or low income people from India.

Speculation leads to wrong conclusions. War should be the absolute last resort. Regardless of who forms the next government in India, should not believe that provocation with neighbors could be a solution. Maybe it can get you votes, obviously, in India de-grading Pakistan is a national pass...

I quoted a specific post for a reason. The posts showed that the poster wanted Modi to do something provocative when it comes to Pakistan. The chances of war are less likely. But what i meant to say was, that any war that begins from the Indian side, would result it destruction on both sides...

If he actually did something stupid, the whole subcontinent would turn into glass. We're glad there are nukes in Pakistan to keep Modi in check. War is not like a cake in the park. If there is a war, the biggest damage would be to his Guajarat state. It's right across the border.

I don't know the numbers, so i was merely surprised.

Sir i think the figures you are quoting are too much.....

Let's hope the momentum is maintained. The first order of the day is to ensure law and order in the KPK, and to do that they seriously need to update their equipment and tactics.

Technically the old F-7s and Mirages are cannon fodder. But At least they are being phased out. I think you are using the wrong analogy here. But nevermind. The aircraft were shot down and hence the kill recorded.

A kill is a kill. Since Our arch enemy to the east still flys a lot of soviet era planes, it would be interesting to see how PAF matches up, considering BVR fighters like JF-17 and F-16 coming. Perhaps with the exception of Mirage 2000, Su30 and Mig29, rest are all cannon fodder. But it also...

Wasn't PNS Hashmat undergoing upgrades?

Cannot just blame biharis.

No, i think they'll have funding from India. Worry about your own nation. First sort that out and then tell Pakistan what to do.

Well, who will they learn this from? Of course, India. Pakistan should immediately deport all Afghans living in Pakistan and seal the border.

This is a good read Opinion: Pakistan sheltered Bin Laden? Prove it - CNN.com

Aye you useless people. Get your cameras out and show us some airplanes as well. :pakistan:

He may speak the truth, but his inaccuracies cast a doubt on all of that. Just like he blindly followed that water car engineer. Journalism is about reporting facts so that the people may be a better judge of that. It should not have any doubts over the information being portrayed. Sadly, it's...

Yea, you would know as if he speaks the truth :hitwall: